E-Bikes Part 1 – Front Hub vs Rear Hub vs Central Motor. What Works Best?

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Jonno R says:

I’ve had all 3 types due to theft by people who know the police in the UK won’t respond even if a GPS tracker is watching it dissapear. For riding through the city over potholes and cycle lanes with tree roots breaking through them I found the front wheel hub drive to be the best provided your wheels are 26″ or more. The wheel climbs up and out curbs and holes pulling the rear wheel up behind it.
Having the power behind tends to push you over the handlebars when the front wheel hits anything vertical. It also helps keep control over diesel spills, especially on roundabouts where the frontal wheel is likely to lowside you under a bus if it’s light and being pushed. Riding in London is hazardous so you need as much help as you can get, and as to whether they are legal I don’t care. Breaking the law with a 500w motor is better than breaking my bones because I can’t pass a taxi before it does a U-turn and T-bones me.

Tyblerone says:

That’s not a central hub motor you nit.

James Baker says:

Great Video! Love the comparison. I rode all styles and ended up choosing the PIM Electric Bicycle equipped with a Power in Motion rear hub motor. The price is great they start at $995 but I sprung for the higher end model that has Magura stuff on it. The mid drives were nice. I tested Bosch and Brose which i like Brose the best but I was on a budget and the PIM got me into a great bike.
Keep up the good videos!!

Wanda Schepis says:

There’s a battery power that can be put on or remove easy in middle of bike, my plan was to have that & front wheel battery power so I can almost double the mileage. can it work?

Brian Bassett says:

You can compare front and rear hub motors all day. But comparing hub and mid-drive motors is like comparing apples and oranges. Or like comparing cars and airplanes because they both have engines. If you want a bike that can go anywhere, has ample torque, is durable, easy to repair and can be assembled all at once or in stages to accommodate a budget, then an add-on mid-drive is where to look. Hub motors are great for building a cute little wanna-be electric motorcycle, not to do an expedition tour.

jozzerful2 says:

I love the one with the chunky tyres, with the motor and the centre it looks the best, when I haven’t even watched the video yet, I am only speaking on what they look like,

Michael Johnson says:

I am interested in these E-bikes and found your videos very informative.. More so than some others.. Nice job

bihus2 says:

I’ve used a front drive e-bike during last summer, now I have a mid motor one which I built myself. What people forget about front drive and I don’t hear about it in ANY videos: the added weight heavily influences braking performance. It feels as it just doesn’t want to stop so quickly even with quality disk brakes. I felt a lot of difference after changing to mid drive, it brakes pretty well even with V-brakes. What I loved about the front drive is what you mentioned, it’s basically all-wheel drive :) With a good motor I think that’s the quickest one when starting from standstill. I was regularly shooting off from traffic lights leaving cars and smaller scooters behind. With mid-drive I need to shift a lot more and the process is just not so smooth. You need more gears for mid-drive, I think with front motor even a 3-speed IGH is sufficient. But overall the mid-drive bike feels much more natural, cornering and braking performance is similar to a normal bike. So I love it even more, only missing those quick starts :)

koukimonzta says:

I didnt like the idea if ebikes before but after going at a demo day i say im saving up to get one ! Hahahha

Minus ZeRo Degrees says:

The think I always liked about the front drive ones is both tires are powerd. You can put a motor on both too but for the price and easier installation it’s well worth it.

Tim S says:

I would understand you a lot better if you took the marbles out of your mouth but good video anyway

NorthOlbo says:

dirt and water on the choice? Thats a very exposed central motor to water flying up from the front wheel, especially with open vents. Good info though. You’d need a super strong car carrier to transport those beasts.

YUKI INU says:

Great video, I ordered a front wheel 500 watt kit, your video makes me think I made the right choice.

Tim Cargile says:

Great video. Thanks for creating and sharing!

PABYLO says:

Good job with your informative essay on e bikes! My daughter and wife come look like they’ll benefit from the front wheel, but myself am an dggressive off-road racer and rider for both motorcycles and bicycles. I love how the mountain bikes are evolving and can’t wait to get my hands on an electric, powerful, off-road bicycle, if and when the prices come down. Maybe, being a South Florida guy now, can assist with some testing you’re around here?

Sylvain Auclair says:

About the weight distribution of the rear-hub motor… you forgot the rider, whose weight is mainly on the rear wheel.

BelperFlyer says:

I’ve converted my wife’s and my fairly lightweight but straight barred road bikes to electric using a kit that looks very similar to the front wheel drive option shown here. We’re both very experienced cyclists who have been commuting, racing and cycletouring for a long time (too long becuase we are both in our late 70s and are finding our local hills a bit too hard!)

The 10S (36v) Lithium ion battery is carried in a special pannier frame at the rear and since our touring bikes have both mudguard and carrier eyes it suits us perfectly. We have pedal assist (which I think is compulsory in the UK) of 5 levels and the motor only works when the pedals are turning. We get a huge range (easily 100km) because we only use the motor when really necessary and pedal ourselves most of the time.

The advantage is that the conversion is simple to do (I’m a retired electronic design engineer) and we can have bikes we like already. My wife’s is a Marin and mine is based on a Kinesis frame I built myself. We both have triple chainsets. I like the idea of two wheel drive :)

Marvin Hennep says:

My wife

william duffy says:

Very informative. I like your accent

Phil M says:

He speaks fine. He has an accent . I’m American and I understand him fine. Good job SickBiker!

Electric Bike Company says:

Do you think having individually fused cells https://youtu.be/7ft1J1Wiggs

Freedom says:

why would anyone use or ride an ebike? It defeats the purpose of having fun and pedaling a bike” hence why we have scooters and motorcycles.

Kutta Kyte says:

I bought an e bike and it’s amazing. Makes bike riding really enjoyable. I never get tired. Haha. Mine is in the middle battery

dave88b says:

I’m mid drive all the way, I’ve had 2 over the past 4 years . tried out hub motor bikes and they are crap on hills off road unless you go up to 1000w and then you get the climbing power but they are way to heavy. My 1st ebike was a hard tail ,l fitted a 8fun 250w motor and a 36v 12 ah battery. It was ok but l needed more power and l found that the battery was to big. I would go on a long ride ( for me ) 15 to 20 miles and return with about 1/3 battery left. So ebike 2 is a full suspension bike with a 350w 8fun motor and a 36v 10ah battery. It weighs just under 22 kg , I get 26 miles out of a charge and in bottom gear it will climb up a wall if you could get the grip. With the controller hacked and the speed limiter off it rev,s out to 33mph in top gear. This bike allows me to easily keep up with my son and his friends , off road and I am 63 ! The only down side is chain maintenance.

Bryan Lovejoy says:

I’ve test driven a mid-drive with a SHIMANO 8-speed hub. Interesting! It was a one-off, as they went to derailleurs after that. The hub shifted by battery, the same one that powered the motor. Bad idea! Anyway, I bought a Sondors Thin single speed. What did I learn? Get multiple gearing in case you find yourself grinding it out due to a dead battery. Take his advice in this regards for sure!. Have tires larger than 700×35. They don’t have to be huge, but thin tires have no business on a heavy electric bike. Front suspension isn’t a bad idea. He doesn’t get into the fact that some mid-drive bikes are power assist only. I rode my Sondors 99% of the time peddling. BUT… there were times where that thumb throttle was just the ticket.

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