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Coco says:

This has got to be the stupidest comparison. He takes a top of the line modern bike and compares it to a POS retro bike. Why not have had a top of the line Colnago or Cinelli with Super Record or C record.

pari john says:

It’s not welded!!! 😮

ocripcurrent says:

“I’ve never ridden one” lost me right there. Didn’t GCN already cover this a few months ago?

Mac Makka says:

persistent SNIFF, is most Unprofessional !!!!

Mark Jones says:

I rode the 100 mile Eroica Britannia route last year on a 1980 Holdsworth Mistral I rebuilt myself from bike jumble sales. My Mistral has a 5 speed Suntour block so there were a few walking sections but less than I thought! And it was over 30° for Eroica last year so take some sunblock! It’s a great event in beautiful surroundings with lovely people. Highly recommended

pgong says:

Nice video. And a delightful conclusion. No, the old bike is not the best in all categories, but as mentioned in the video, performance isn’t the only metric. Who doesn’t love performance? But things like lifespan, comfort, safety (steel fork!) ease of maintenance, and simplicity (less to go wrong) and the unique sensation of a bike sometimes makes sense for the kind of riding many of us do. For me, I certainly like knowing a reasonably maintained steel frame will still be good to to 30 or 40 years down the road.

sandydenny lives says:

A decade later they were lighter, had index gears and clipless pedals, and were unmatched for courier work. It was the early days of alu frames and they just couldn’t last even with ultra lightweight riders. Modern steels ( 853+) are light enough for everything a non pro or cat 1-2 rider needs and climb cols with aplomb.

Kevin P says:

Irony is Leroica Britannia is allowing modern bikes this year.

xchopp says:

15:44 — spot on!

William Lucas says:

A beautiful sentiment as to why we all cycle

lightdark00 says:

I bought a hybrid bike some years ago, and it came with v-brakes. I changed to a drop bar and the brake-shifters I got wouldn’t directly work with v-brakes. I love cantilever brakes, just as strong as the v-brake to me. I use 28-622 tires now, so that was my only option.

OverblownOverthrown says:

SO many errors I don’t know where to start.. but ok:
1. the first cantilever brakes came out in the 1930s and were made by resilion. All the top end club bikes of the 30s and 40s had them.
2. They’re 26s, not 23s!
3. BRAZED LUGS! Not welded…
4. The downtube levers are friction shifters, not ‘frictionless’.. if they were truly frictionless you’d be in the smallest sprocket (not ‘cog’) the whole time…
5. etc etc…

Still, glad you enjoyed the vintage machine.

Gary Button says:

welds!? lugged frames were soldered – good ones with silver. Note that steel frames could be “tuned” or ride or speed just like the carbon bikes of today. However, F=MA and light bikes ALWAYS sell

Walden Harwood says:

Wow! Who setup the cantilevers, straddle cable a little long. haha

Neil Sessions says:

i have a restored raleigh ti ,it only weighs 9 kilos fully loaded which i am guessing is the same or slightly than the weight of the carbon frame bike

Jouni Kyyrönen says:

U get cancer when riding bike. So dont sit good tip for audi drivers

maz ditzo says:

dat gumwall tires … love it!!

Michael McCuskey says:

On the old bike the rear wheel wasnt in the frame straight


Whata prick!

J Owen says:

had a vintage Armstrong framed bike for years, fitted with triple front, dual pivot brakes and clipless pedals, can’t fault it, except heavier than modern bikes.

Drei Canlas says:

Did you just copied gcn?

James Heath says:

Friction shifters, not frictionless. They’re not indexed, but without friction you’d be stuck in small/small

valentin65 says:

Terrible accent. He must be from some lonely island separated from Europe (the civilized continent) by a big chunk of water.

dpm9a1 says:

Can’t beat a steel frame, something about it

Jason Crouzat says:

I have a little bit of one of those bikes everyone and yes you’re right they are as good

djmarco90000 says:

When a fred rides a vintage bike. XD

Neil Sessions says:

less than

Damon Thomas says:

The old bikes just look so much better, but that’s just 51 year old me saying that.

freedom Cycling says:

its not welded

Random Stuff In Oregon says:

I’ve got a late 70s Univega Vivasport that I recently fixed up. Mine even has a headlight, with one of those generators that rubs on the tire to power it! That bike has been a lot of fun, and it’s pretty efficient for me. The down tube shifters are very easy to use once you get used to them.

Trevor Jameson says:

The old bikes are nice and ride well. I have a ’76 super le tour 12.2, and it’s comfortable and still a decent touring bike. It will last a lifetime too.

Dirk R says:

retro is so good, i adore them. i wish they were produced today. everything modern is shit.

Julian Grant says:

I’m not surprised he didn’t like the Mafac cantilever brakes they never were cutting edge road bike material, but designed for touring bikes & tandems (read take it steady all day). Put a pair of period Campag brakes on & you’d feel a lot more reassured, even more so if you add modern compound blocks; I put Koolstops on Mafac centre pulls & the difference was monumental even with the brakes flexing more than I’d like.

Thomas Holmes says:

What an ass this clown is.

Mike Foster says:

Really enjoyed this bike comparison
I ride both and really love my 1982 Colnago Super she is 6 sp on 53/42 chain ring

Julian Grant says:

“These were some of the first cantilever brakes ever devised” No Oliver! These were some of the last cantilevers and based on late 1940s design, so basically around 70 years old when even cars didn’t all have hydraulic brakes! MAFAC started in 1947 and initially made cantilevers, brake levers and tool kits. MAFAC produced side-pull brakes in the late 1970s and early 1980s, concurrently with their cantilever and centre-pull offerings.The company ceased trading in the late 1980s.

thesheepman220 says:

Genesis do a 931 stainless steel frameset absolutely beautiful or the 853 which is very nice but a lot cheaper, that’s it going have to rob a bank lol

George Bamber says:

I wouldn’t call it retro it’s not dictionarly true

bohemian46 says:

Would you consider re-doing this video without the mocking (ignorant) attitude? BTW way the “vintage” bike was a classic example of how NOT to set up a bike.I would also suggest to be better prepared to talk about “vintage bikes”. “Amazed at how comfortable this bike is””this frame is really good”.. ” The comfort is surprisingly good” No shit !”Cables make me laugh””Toe clips.. when men were men”.”Made so many years ago and still works ” Says it all and the reason I do not own or ride new age crap.You completely miss the point of cycling. It is NOT “all about fun”. This is what differentiates cycling from profiling on a bike.Carbon?  Yes,  carbon steel. Put simply, you don’t get it.

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